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Mindy Cohn 00:02
Hey everyone, Christian and I welcome you back to another episode of Mondays with Mindy.
Christian Brescia 00:06
Hello everyone. Welcome back to the show.
Mindy Cohn 00:09
Today's episode features a conversation with one of my all time favorite interior designers author cook and business owner, Nathan Turner, a fourth generation California Nathan Turner grew up in San Francisco Bay Area not in the bay, surrounded by a large extended family. deeply rooted in California heritage. He spent many weekends at the family ranch in Northern California, where they would ride horses, raised cattle and cook scrumptious meals. Nathan attended St. Mary's College of California where he graduated with a degree in business. He then lived abroad in France and Italy, where he studied the area's language art history, and honed his culinary skills nice. Upon moving to Los Angeles, Nathan successfully merged his greatest passions, design, travel and food into his shop in Los Angeles, which is where I first met him but he won't remember amazing store. Nathan's store had become an expression of his years traveling a fateful source for the country's leading interior designers, as well as some of the most stylish individuals from coast to coast. Well, me included Of course, Nathan's party's products and designs have been featured in major national and regional publications including Architectural Digest, Domino, Vogue, elle decor house, beautiful food and wine, see magazine, The New York Times and the LA Times. Just a few.
Christian Brescia 01:33
Just a few.
Mindy Cohn 01:33
His cookbook I love California, which I recently posted on my Instagram stories, and yes, there it is. It's such an incredible book, best guide to living eating and entertaining the West Coast way. Nathan is also special projects editor at Architectural Digest and contributing editor at sea magazine. Oh, he lives in his homes in Los Angeles in Ohio, with his partner Eric, who I adore, and they're Fab Labs. Amazing.
Christian Brescia 02:01
I'm ready to meet him. Shall we bring him in?
Mindy Cohn 02:04
Yes, I love him.
Christian Brescia 02:05
Well, ladies and gentlemen, we are excited to introduce to you and have a conversation with Nathan Turner. Hello, sir.
Nathan Turner 02:12
Mindy Cohn 02:15
Nathan Turner 02:16
It's a very exciting thing for me to just see your face. I mean, it's, I'll take what I can get. It's not live right. I'll take what I can get right now. Okay,
Mindy Cohn 02:28
thank you. Yes. Same. Um, okay, so, taking out my trusty Johnny Adler cat canister and doing a deep dive here. Your five questions. Yeah,
Christian Brescia 02:37
five, get to know in questions, you know,
Mindy Cohn 02:38
randomly, or even just to start gabbing which you and I don't ever have a problem dealing?
Nathan Turner 02:43
Mindy Cohn 02:44
Okay, Nathan, do you have a hidden talent?
Nathan Turner 02:47
hidden talent? I don't know if I should call it a talent because I don't think I'm very good. I wish I had this talent. Because I'd love like to be a country western singer. And I'm not joking. Okay.
Mindy Cohn 03:02
I love this. I love this. So completely.
Nathan Turner 03:06
I'm not joking. Like, I think I can sing like in my truck when I'm driving. But I actually I'm fine. But I'm not like, I'm not heading to Nashville anytime soon. But I would love to.
Mindy Cohn 03:19
Oh my god, that is delicious. Little fine tuning.
Christian Brescia 03:21
Mindy Cohn 03:24
That is delicious. Um, what do you splurge on
Nathan Turner 03:28
a travel? Yeah. And I think it's like, that is the area where I'm really like, everybody is funny with money. And they spent what you know, want to spend it in different ways and feel comfortable. I'm fine. Like, I want the best seat on the airplane. I want like the hotel. I love the hotel, you know?
Mindy Cohn 03:47
Yeah. Yeah. Do you when you have an out of town client and you have to go do you tap on an extra trip? If you have time to somewhere else.
Nathan Turner 03:55
I always say like, this is gonna be the time in Asia, right, which is exciting. And I love it. And I'm always like, Look, I'm already all the way over there. I flown on Singapore Airlines in suite class for my call, you know, my clients and nice. So there, why not go a little bit, but it's more often than not. I'm like racing to get back on to something else. I try.
Mindy Cohn 04:22
Right? Have you ever been to Sri Lanka?
No. Okay, I'm
Mindy Cohn 04:26
pulling this out of my butt. Because I mean, it's one of those places where until you go somewhere else, like you don't make a direct flight to Sri Lanka. I don't think like, it's really hard. Like while you're there. Yeah. All right. It's one of those places that I'm dying to go
to, but it would be a good one from like Singapore. Like, there's so many places that are great from there.
Mindy Cohn 04:46
That's what I was thinking. Um, oh, this is so funny. Okay, what's your favorite place to travel to and why?
That's funny. Um, you know what? It's always like the place I haven't been You know what I mean? It's that rush of like landing down somewhere and having that excitement of like, I don't know where I don't know anything about where I'm about to land. And I love that and I've been like that since I was a little kid. I love an adventure theme. I like that.
Christian Brescia 05:16
It's a good answer.
Mindy Cohn 05:17
Okay, um, what is your best habit? And what is your worst habit?
My worst habit? I'm going to start there is I am. This is really not normal for somebody in my profession. I am a real slob like I really am. And people were like, No, no, you're not an Eric, my boyfriend. Everybody will be in the background being like, yes, Eric will do this invitation of me like he's like, Here you are. You walk into the house and it's like, you start disrobing, immediately. And I think there's a minute and like, not a millisecond in your mind where you like, look at the jacket. I He's like, I'd like to think you're thinking Should I hang it up? But then you go and discard and it's, you know, when we met, he was like, Who? What? grown man, let alone someone in our industry. With your taste level. Everything has like cereal bowls next to your bed. You know, I'm like a frat boy.
Mindy Cohn 06:11
Okay, that is so that's like a hidden? Yeah, I
would have never never guessed that.
Yeah, no, it's hidden. And it's about it's a really that, you know, I'm Chi I'm
Mindy Cohn 06:20
not well, it is because eventually that clean up? Yeah,
yes. And that's why I like you know, I had a housekeeper. Still. Amanda, my housekeeper. years ago, pre Eric called me panic and thought my house had been ransacked, like had been broken into. It was a true story.
Mindy Cohn 06:40
Oh, my gosh, that's classic. Wow,
I can like organize someone's life. Like, you can't be like, I've seen this environment. And like, this is how I literally have binders for my clients, where there are photos of the top of each counter space and like, so their staff or whomever can like keep it exactly the way I've styled it and left it and then I'm like,
Mindy Cohn 07:04
goes to show. Yeah, like, okay, yeah. Okay, so worst, fine, but what's your best habit?
My best habit is, I would say, I'm pretty, like reliable, which isn't a habit, but it makes the things that I like commit to stick, if that makes sense. Like, you know, it
Mindy Cohn 07:24
doesn't it's also something in your industry that when people get some sense of notoriety or success, they can start to be a little flaky. No,
yeah, that's my word. And like, I was probably gonna, you know, probably when I was younger, but I I'm really like, I like steady, you know? Yeah,
Christian Brescia 07:42
I get that.
Mindy Cohn 07:43
All right. Last question. Who's the most fascinating person you've met?
Oh, gosh, um, do you know the artist cy Twombly. His wife, Tatiana friend, Kathy. She was one of these women in aristocratic family. Obviously, she had the ability and the means to travel. But like a woman from her generation, the experiences she had, and the things she would talk about, and be able to teach you is like, I remember when the last time I ever saw her. She gave me Philippines from a rosebush from her garden. And they were you know, from rose from the original cutting that she hadn't taken from like Nepal, and rot back in her suitcase when she was like 28 years old or something, and then taught me how to like, propagate it when I get back home. And she was just like her stories and her life and her experiences and her new home, like, her bedroom was filled with full print. She's just fascinating. So, for me, it's never like the kind of the obvious of like, trust me, I'd love to meet Beyonce, and I'm sure she'd be. But I love old people, like that have been around. And I love like really cultured people that like her that have just seen an experience so much. It's like I hear stories from someone like that, that I'm never going to hear from anyone ever. You know, I mean, yeah.
Mindy Cohn 09:07
Well, you said it too, especially from that time era or that time period when they were where they were. Right. Yeah.
Yeah, it's like that's all over. The funny thing is the first person that actually popped into my head was my great grandmother. And then that made me think of Tatyana and my great grandmother lived to be 103. And she was born in San Francisco in 1909. Amazing Stories just like blew my mind to where she was hilarious. She was interesting. She had lived this really interesting life. And she would like I remember that, you know, whatever access hollywood would come on the television and be like, oh, Lindsay Lohan was out without panties again, and my mother's like, Oh, god, it's horrible. These girls these days, and my great grandmother would like roll her eyes and be like, Oh, please. She's like, it's all the same thing. It's been going on for ages. She's like, it's just different outfits. She's like, if you had been around San Francisco in the 20s, and 30s, you would have seen a lot worse. And the stories were great. So I think probably because I love history and travel and it just like when you talk to people from a different time, it's just incredibly interesting.
Mindy Cohn 10:21
Yeah, now did that your great grandmother, was she the one that purchased the ranch, like who started your family ranch up in Northern California,
that is on the other side of the family. Okay, the scary German, as I fondly refer to them. I shouldn't say scary. That's mean a bit strict. My mother's maiden names trohman hausser. It's like there's strict German. So it's that side of the family, five generations ago, came
Mindy Cohn 10:49
five generations ago, okay, even further back
came from Germany and England, the family and through British Columbia, and then kind of started doing business up there. And they're like, let's go sell and then landed in Northern California, and started our ranch. And it's a cool for me, I love the connection is really wonderful, you know, to be connected. I'm at home in Ohio, I have an entire wall of just all these amazing old some of them are in the papers of my book, but some old pictures of like, great grandparents and great and for me, there's something very comforting about there with me. And even though I didn't know half of them, I'm connected to them. And it's why I feel so connected to our home state. Like I just the California experience to me is so much a part of my childhood, but also my mother's childhood and my Graham Wright brothers. And, and it just is I feel like it's part of what connects me to my own family. So it makes me feel comforted.
Mindy Cohn 11:52
Same. I think it's one of the first conversations we had when I told you that my on my dad's side, my grandparents are Angelenos. Yeah, it was very rare, you know, to find families like that who've been here that long. So you know, Christian, and I have this question that we ask a lot of different kinds of creatives does where you grew up, did that help create your aesthetic? And you basically answered that question like, it was born in Yeah, right.
It's it's, like ingrained. Mm hmm. I think it really dictates my creativity and what obviously influences it, but really, like drives me and I think, and I say this a lot when I'll speak at like design schools or weather or whatever to design events. And people that are, especially students that are coming up, be stay open, keep your eyes open. Because as a creative, it's every experience is going to contribute to your, it's just like Foundation, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And I think of like, when I was, you know, my last year of college, I came down, which is how I ended up in Southern California. I was a pool boy, Four Seasons Hotel right over here, and sohini. And it was just a fun job. Like, you know, I'm like, This will be fun. And I'll be in LA for the summer and ended up staying longer. And the things I saw,
Mindy Cohn 13:10
I can only imagine,
especially their babies at the pool in Beverly Hills, four seasons. But you know, when I look back, yeah, that was like a, quote, fun summer job. But I also learned so much from there. Like I loved the I you know, that I like love to cook and entertain. But if you're open and you're taking everything in even if it is like a dumb summer job, you're still learning and taking lessons in it. It was the first time I really started to like pay attention to like, I loved the Four Seasons, rules on quality. You know what I mean? And it's like, yeah, this was you know, late 90. So at the pool, then they didn't really have a restaurant up there. So everything was brought up from downstairs. And everyone Of course, why wouldn't they wanted french fries at the pool, and they wouldn't serve them there because by the time they got up from the kitchen, they did cold and they were not gonna stop. And I remember like, at the time rolling my eyes and it was like an annoying thing to like, have to explain to people but I also thought Wait, if you can't do it, right, you shouldn't do it. And it's just weird little lessons like that that are just always like being infused you know, to someone who is a creative so it's really important to stay aware and open and and be open to anything.
Mindy Cohn 14:27
Yes. Well and i'd love how as much as your passion is to travel and how much you love it and enjoy it. Also that feeling of like loving to come home.
Oh my god. I always thought the best thing about LA is coming back to a most perfect place to come home to it just really is like there's it's such a like soft landing. There's nothing harsh about it. You're even le x is by the water and you're waiting for your taxi or whatever and it's like cool car. It's a very great Places to come home to agree
Mindy Cohn 15:02
a great, so do you, I know how hard you work? Do you work every day? And when I say that I'm trying to get to this kind of question. Another one we asked, which is about someone's creative process? I mean, are you always designing or curating? Or an a creative act every day? Or no, no, I know, you're a nature a lot, and you cook a lot, but
that's where I kind of plugged back in is, I Hi. And I grew up in, you know, the outdoors, my entire life, you know, overnights, and this year and all of that stuff. And so that's where I kind of, you know, Monday been, you know, doing what you do, it's like, you can't do that all the time. You've got to like, recharge, otherwise, you just don't have anything left. So I that's my like, plug back in. But I will say this, I am kind of always looking though. I am always it's like what I said before, it's like my eyes are always open. Like, I'm like, oh, Where's my phone? I like that like detail on that door. And it may sit in my phone. And like three years later, I'm like, at the airport waiting. And I think I'm like, Ooh, that would be really cool on this thing. You know what I mean? So there's just always, always taking in, hopefully, and inspirations everywhere. And I always laugh when like, you know, people are like, Oh, you know, Paris and London. It's like, of course, da. Those are inspiring places. But like, I'm super inspired everywhere. Like, see, there's something there's always something if you're paying attention.
Mindy Cohn 16:42
Yeah, same. What are you currently obsessed with right now? Like, I know, you go through, like we all do this kind of waves of what do you currently like obsessed about? And it doesn't have to be design. It can be a food item. It can be anything, actually.
What am I currently? I, you know, I think probably like, everyone, I'm kind of just obsessed with my own home, you know, like all of us have not been evil. Oh, it's
Mindy Cohn 17:09
telling Christian usually to try and get you would be virtually impossible because you travel like three weeks out of the month or something.
Yeah, definitely. And we as you know, started redid a place in Ohio. And I think we completely finished with the interior, January of last year. I mean, like talk about perfect timing. And I didn't know that. Yeah, I don't mean like decorating I just mean like, we got to the house and like added on to it. And so where we could move in. So I mean, it's like a decorator's dream. I've had like kind of a year at home and just like, like fooling around in our own space. And we're working on the garden now. And, and so it is kind of an obsession. And I think just like, you know, I have tomorrow trek coming from down here with like, some other stuff to try and like, I'm always like, let's try this. And let's try that. That's actually been a real like, plus side of this.
Mindy Cohn 18:05
Yeah, I'll say what have you and Eric been bingeing on anything of note that you want to share?
I think probably all the usuals you know, the Yeah, you know, I the bridgerton I was not going to do and then I just because it looks like I know. They just couldn't. And then of course, I like watched one and then we watched all of them.
Mindy Cohn 18:31
Yeah, but one of the things like for me that caught me off guard. What I'll put it that way. Like Like, of course, everyone talks about all of them. But I have to say like the game changer for me. There were a couple and one of them was Ted Lascaux where no one in my purview had watched it. And I thought, oh my god, how do you not like Jason? You know, it's like, Okay, I have been raving about this show. It's the most feel good. Funny. Like, it's one of those like, Well, I think you guys need to watch it. And it wasn't like in everybody's conversation. Yeah. Right. Right.
So it was like, there's just so much out there, like, everything can't be in everyone's conversation. You know what I've done? Almost like comfort food. For me. I went back and had watched so many like 80s, early 90s movies, like, you know, everything from like, working girls to what was the what, like, I mean, and then even kind of like bad 90s movies, like remember a decent proposal to me more? Like since you watch this, and really loving the site 80s 90s moment and film that
Mindy Cohn 19:43
hey, listen, it was good to me. Yeah,
it was. I mean, the best.
Mindy Cohn 19:48
The best, you know, that's really yeah, that's fantastic.
Yeah. dove into some early Wonder Woman. Not the movie. The TV show. Linda Carter. Linda Carter was like Yeah, like, I mean, the ultimate like bombshell.
Mindy Cohn 20:02
Honestly, that body in that costume, there is nothing I bring anybody else against that show when hands down.
And she's gonna be like six feet tall. Like she's just like, and still gorgeous marble statue. Yeah, like that, to me is what's amazing about what all that crazy content that's out there is that you can just kind of find anything.
Mindy Cohn 20:24
Yeah. So about this book of yours. That is so ridiculous. Christian, you want to hold it up again? It's so amazing.
Oh, yeah. Speaking to California,
Mindy Cohn 20:35
and loving it. Um, so how's it been to try and get this out there in this time? It's so have you had to do this kind of? I had?
No I had I The book has been out. So right. I didn't have to do it. This, you know, it's, I already did my whole I had such a great release with it. And Ralph Lauren, I partner with them. And they did. This was pre
Mindy Cohn 20:59
Yes. I remember. They had parties, right.
Yeah, we did, like did all of it. So I feel like, you know, I will still do some things. And it's like, you know, what we're doing now. Or, you know, the today's show is great, because you don't have to go to New York. Not that I don't want to go to New York. But right. It's always a big deal to do that for what I do. I'm like, why can't I just you know, it's so easy if you were going just to like talk about a topic, but I'm going with like, I need I need a chest of drawers, a mirror a table in two lampshades. It doesn't look like I'm trying to get the whole coordination of the segment for me is real. So it's like so much
Mindy Cohn 21:38
more than what should be for a three minute thing.
Yeah, I was talking to the producer I work with yesterday. And it's just like, Okay, well, what room in your house? Could we do this and like then we can superimpose some photos on like, this like room service, like, you know, like to lay in bed and like, amazing thing, which is my favorite thing. That's my favorite thing to do is work from bed.
Mindy Cohn 22:01
So just for everyone who's listening and I don't know if Christian and I have had this conversation yet. I know that I haven't had this with you. But I'm publicly coming out saying I know all my friends Becky's know this, because that's who I FaceTime with the most right? Um, my dream is when I get a New York apartment is to have you come into it.
Oh my God.
Mindy Cohn 22:23
It is like my dream and like, well, what will that entail? And I said, well, that will entail me getting a new series and because I will want Nathan to not give me the friends and family I want the full Nathan Dorner experience out and pay for his room and keep and I want the full that would be my dream know that I will be manifesting.
I have accommodation there. So there's that we can check that out. It's great. Erica,
Mindy Cohn 22:54
Thank you, Eric, for so many things, but especially that that's great. Um, because there is something My dream is to obviously you know, this about me that I want to grow old in New York City and be in New York. And yeah, just a week ago, I want my New York apartment to be Nathan Turner.
Oh my god, that that's like a huge honor from I
Mindy Cohn 23:14
want to live in a Nathan Turner space. That's it. That is my dream. And I know that you and I both know a lot of other designers that I respect, but you're the tops kid.
It's such a such a huge compliment. And one we would just like literally have the time of our lives. Of course. You know, and yeah, there are so many talented people in my business. And I feel like it's kind of like for you and acting. It's I've never gotten into the competition of it. Because like, you get so personal. It's so personal. Oh my god, it's the most intimate what I end up knowing about my clients. It's like, I'm not joking. When I say I know what's in there, like nightstand drawers, you know, you have to, I know everything. And so for me, it's really about like that click, you've got to click with somebody. And, you know,
Mindy Cohn 24:12
this style of someone I mean, what's interesting is I have now gotten to the point where I can sometimes walk into someone's house and I really know maybe you have a two or three people who they've hired.
Mindy Cohn 24:25
there's a vibe, there's a look, there's a feel, and I'm just saying I want to feel like Nathan Turner period full stop. And I can't wait for you to talk to and meet some because you haven't met some of them. Some of these people I'm talking about who when they meet you will be like, okay, so you're the one that's going to decorate this apartment.
Oh, okay, you're
Mindy Cohn 24:46
that one. Okay,
I love that so much. We'll we'll do it. We'll do a bang up job. My nice the cereal bowls on the side of the bed.
Mindy Cohn 24:59
Yes, okay. What's your favorite thing to leave in a client's home? Like what basically in every project is their favorite has your stamp? Yeah, a signature of sorts. But is there a special gift or a special something that you always leave? In a client's home?
Yeah, really big bill.
Mindy Cohn 25:20
We know this to be true.
No, I think that I one thing I'm known for, and it's probably because I started my career as an antique dealer. First is you're always gonna find old things. And my work and IANA. It's a modern house. Yes. Still used someplace. Yeah, just it's the like, interior and it tells people who is living in this house, you know what I mean? And so always old thing, always I don't, you know, that, like the design centers where they're just chock a block with furniture thing. I rarely buy new furniture. Rarely. Yeah, it gives me that, like, feel that like,
Mindy Cohn 26:08
well, it's so funny, cuz we started talking about the most fascinating person you've met, we talked about your great grandmother in the family ranch. I mean, that goes, it makes sense that you're also attracted to older objects, it just being a storyteller. I like objects with a story doesn't mean I don't like new and shiny document, he loves new and shiny, right? There's something for me that's very comforting about being among things that have a
story, and that have been around and then that they're survived. And I even like new things like new things that I choose, or Eric and I choose to make for our own home. I like to make sure it's like a really done correctly and well. And I fantasize about, like, oh, in 100 years, who's gonna stumble upon this thing and be like, this is kind of weird, but shake, and I like it. And then it's the antique of the future. And it's something that gives me like, I have these really great. I have this girl that draws my dogs in like a glossy chalk. And she does these little profile paintings of them. And I have them all frame, you know, hi. And we'd put the little plaques of, you know, dogs from many years ago, and our current house. And I imagine like, at the end of my life, we all have these Labrador, little glass paintings. And those especially I think, Oh my god, how stoked would I be if I was like, you know, roundtop in Texas, stumble upon like this 100 year old collection of Labrador paintings. And I love that it's like, I feel like it's just me being like, a cog in the wheel, but in a really good way. Like, I'm just keeping it going.
Mindy Cohn 27:52
I like to use just said, like creating the antiques of the future, because they already have stories and sentimentality to it. That's the other thing I find. I like objects that evoke sentimentality in me, and I love it. Because I'd like that feeling of living with that feeling. Yeah. So
that doesn't mean that they have to be super precious or expensive or valuable. Because my most favorite things. The reality of is those drawings aren't, don't really have value, but they're my favorite things, you know?
Mindy Cohn 28:17
Yes. Did Oh, oh, no, I just can't tell you how much I enjoy you Nathan Turner, and I am so excited for people who don't know you to listen to this and know you better and to get your book and follow you and see what gorgeousness you create, not just for your clients. But for you and Eric,
always the best, because no one's telling me how to do it.
Mindy Cohn 28:40
That's true. Yeah. Although you've gotten to the point where I can't imagine any client really tells you, you're Yeah, it's like, I'm sorry.
You know who I am. If they try. I'm just like, I'm just like, okay, okay, okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah.
Mindy Cohn 28:57
I need you me. Thanks. So you're gonna love it and pay me for it. Thanks for playing. Yeah. Anyway, this has been a delight. You are a delight. I truly do adore you
so much, right? Lady and I have to tell you, I'm like shook by like that you would pick me to do your New York apartment because I know, the New York apartments the plan, so it's like, I just if you were here, I would just give you the tightest hug and probably like, crack a rib.
Mindy Cohn 29:23
You want there's a lot going on. Little COVID going on down here. COVID eating still happening. But I do know that is I can't wait for you to meet people who will actually validate what i what i say no, it's not a yarn word. Anyway, thank you. Will you kiss Eric for me?
Yeah. Well, this is so fun. Love chatting with you guys. Yeah, thanks to do it in person soon.
Christian Brescia 29:46
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