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Christian Brescia 00:00
Hello everybody and welcome back to another episode of Monday's with Monday. Good morning Mindy.
Mindy Cohn 00:05
Good morning, Christian! Today we are heading north into Canada to have a proper gab with the multi Platinum award winning singer songwriter actor and author Jann Arden. Wow, you're stateside. She's not as well known, but I do believe that it's finally going to change now that her series is available on Hulu. Jen has released 14 albums with 19 Top 10 singles, while our most recent project hit and other gems was released in September of 2020. Her accolades include eight Juno Awards, and for Western Canadian Music Awards just name a few. In 2020, she was announced as an inductee into the Canadian Music Hall of Fame joining other icons Alanis Morissette, Bryan Adams, Joni Mitchell, Shania Twain and many more. She also has a star on Canada's Walk of Fame and has been awarded the Order of Canada. Oh, Janice also written five books her most recent her memoir, if I only knew then finding wisdom in failure and the power of aging. Amen sister. A Memoir follows her 2017 Canadian bestseller feeding my mother comfort and laughter in the kitchen as my mom lives with memory loss, which spent a combined 244 weeks on the Globe and Mail bestseller lists. Wow, yeah, season two of her CTV his original comedy series jam premiered in September of 2020. I believe they are either about to launch season three or have already launched season three we'll check in with her jam serves not only as co creator and star, she plays a fictionalized version of herself. Season One of jam was the most watched new Canadian comedy series of the 2018 and 2019 broadcast season. So catch it for us stateside catch it on Hulu. Yeah, there she is captivating audiences with their heartfelt music, entertaining them with her quick wit or sharing her written word in a boldly honest voice. Jan is a brilliant multi dimensional talent.
Christian Brescia 02:02
It sounds like it and she's been keeping busy!
Mindy Cohn 02:04
I'll say, right. Geez.
Christian Brescia 02:07
I can't wait for our listeners and our viewers and pretty much the folks stateside to get to know her a little bit better. Ladies and gentlemen, we're excited to have a conversation with Jann Arden!
Mindy Cohn 02:17
Hello, Jan. Yeah, totally for you. We won't and we shan't and we'll keep it going. Um, welcome to Monday's with Mondays.
Jann Arden 02:30
Mondays with Mindy indeed. I'm so thrilled.
Mindy Cohn 02:33
Cool. We start each episode of Christian and I came up with 20 questions, I pull five, we just start gabbing is really the thing. You got to know. You know, there's no more about it. I promise. Um, oh, my God, I pulled this one. It's so deep. I just can't I mean, we want to deep dive but we don't want to drown you hold on. Did where or how you grew up, help you develop your aesthetic?
Jann Arden 02:59
Absolutely. I am speaking to you now from maybe five, six miles from where I grew up, called springbank. Alberta. Wow. When we were growing up kids from other communities called us the kids from sperm bank, which was but you know, let's keep this in perspective. They came from towns like Kent, Canada. I'm not kidding. I Canada. There's this. But yeah, I think I went to a really small school. There was like 42 kids in my school. Wow. Um, my dad was in concrete his whole life. My mom worked odd jobs. She worked at like an egg farm and she worked at a dental office. Like without any training. She got a job in the city. Calgary is the closest city to me. But yeah, I think it just we were just rock it. You know, we were very independent. And I think that did shape my life and the way I thought about my place in the world. I had no idea what was out there. Huh?
Mindy Cohn 03:56
Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. When is the last time you cried out of sadness or happiness mad? I decided to add that because I got a lot out of happiness.
Jann Arden 04:06
Yeah, I think, you know, I was crying, laughing playing tennis. About a week ago. I went I met a couple of girlfriends in a little island called Bowen Island, which is a 15 minute ferry ride from Vancouver BC. So it would be near Hornsby. Yes. If you can picture the Puget Sound kind of what people imagined on the coast of Seattle and Washington up in that area. So just above that Vancouver Island, Bowen Island, very close to Hornby, and we were playing tennis, I don't really play tennis. And we had our two little dogs with us. There was four of us and the dogs thought it was a game for them and they were chasing the balls. I mean, you kind of had to be there but we never really had a volley. It was the balls just kind of went we were running around and and I really was cry laughing and I thought at one point that I you know, I just I couldn't even move around but it just something so simple and so funny and seeing the dogs in ecstasy chasing these balls and not knowing what to do. What is this game?
Mindy Cohn 05:12
It's overload pleasure. I don't know.
Jann Arden 05:15
Yeah, but I did. I had tears rolling down my face and oh, yeah, I didn't think I was gonna come out of the laugh. It was one of those moments.
Mindy Cohn 05:24
I love that. Were you then like, you know, hours later you're like, did we do abs? Like what happened? My stomach is like aching. This is the best ABS ever. Yeah, I'm cool. It's your favorite relative?
Jann Arden 05:35
Well, I would have been my deceased mother. I think we allowed to say like, mother's Yeah. She was really hilarious. It was an interesting time with her. She had Alzheimer's the last 10 years of her life, but she's still in there. She was still extremely funny. She said profound things. But you know, I remember being 16 years old and you know, probably up to no good and being disrespectful. And she's, you know, she said to me one day, Jan, I am not your friend. I am your mother. And it hurt me at the time. But as a young 30 year old 40 year old I thought I get exactly where she was coming from she has to be a disciplinarian. Yeah, but she was my true north. She was extremely charismatic and funny and kind. And I'd be happy sitting on an apple box in the middle of a field. And that's exactly how she was I just have a vision of her watering plants and looking at her birds that hit windows and
Mindy Cohn 06:30
was she gobsmacked? When she would come? Would she come to your arena shows like, would she just freak out? I mean, did it was it ever lost on her? Like, what the heck? You didn't freak out at all? Amazing.
I remember the last few years. I mean, before she got quite, you know, forgetful. Of course I remember I remember. You know, I was coming to Calvin doing a show. And I said you and dad want to come and and he said, Well, is it the same as last year? Because we don't need to do that again. Why don't you get those tickets to somebody else. She didn't mean it anyway, but she wasn't a stage mother. As a song.
Mindy Cohn 07:08
I'm going to share something with you that I never I rarely talk about because I just don't. You know my parents in the 10 seasons, we shot facts of life. My parents never came to a taping. Not one time, not because they didn't weren't proud of me or what I was doing. It's just they were busy. They had careers. me later that night. Like, I'll see it home. We'll see it on the TV when it comes.
That came to really bad gigs, too. You know, I think back to playing the bars. We have to pay our dues. Yeah. And the bars in Canada, I'm sure very similar to small town America, there really isn't that much of a disconnect between our countries. Honestly. I know America often thinks of Canadians as the crazy aunt in the attic. You can hear us up here. We're walking around, you're like what? No,
Mindy Cohn 07:55
this how much more Kinder? And well, you don't really,
but But anyway, you know, I would be in bars where the stage would be wrapped in chicken mash because people threw stuff at you. And I remember my dad sitting at a round table that was covered in that red terry cloth. Yes, with like a pop sitting in front of him a soda and with his fingers firmly planted in his ears. And afterwards and it was terrible. We were a terrible band we did covers we did Sheena Easton and ZZ Top and, and foreigner and it was terrible. We were terrible man. He said that's that god damn are sick ever heard my goddamn life. And so my parents saw me in a lot of those gigs. But I don't I think when I started performing, actually having the balls to play my own music, things that I had written. And when I got my record deal, you know, I didn't get my record deal till I was almost 30. So you know, it was it came to be very late in life. I played the bars for years and was turned down by everybody on the planet. But yeah, they were very nonchalant about what I did. My mom said, we're very proud that you're a singer, and we're glad you're enjoying yourself. And we wouldn't care if you were a plumber. And actually, we could use a plumber more than a singer. This was my parents.
Christian Brescia 09:14
They keep it real.
Mindy Cohn 09:16
I listen, I love it. I'm so grateful to have the parents that I have for a plethora of reasons, but that mostly that they really helped me understand that what I did for a living was great, but it wasn't, you know, it's what I did not who I was, you know? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Um, what's your favorite place in the world?
Oh my gosh, I've traveled so much the last 30 years. I think home I live in a little kind of a mini forest, about 20 minutes west of Calgary so you'd call it the foothills of the Rocky Mountains. I've been out here since I was eight years old. COVID has been a blessing for me because I've been home more in the last 18 months and I have been in 25 years. Wow. And I have a ton of Wildlife here. I live right on a river called River. I work here a lot. I record here a lot. Now,
Mindy Cohn 10:06
is it the house that I've seen on Instagram? Yes. Okay, cuz it's amazing. Yes. Fabulous. Yeah, I mean, it is really Nirvana.
I just have thoroughly built it up. Much like my parents talking about influence, you know, I just kind of stay to Country Girl and but I normally travel 250 days a year. So it has been so nice being here, but I love it here. But I'll tell you what so many good places in the world, isn't there? Yeah, of course. Of course. Sure.
Mindy Cohn 10:34
Um, so if you could ask anyone alive or dead, anything? Who would it be? And what would you ask? Oh, it
would be Karen Carpenter. I don't even have to think about it. I love that. And I think I would ask her. I think I would want to take her for lunch.
Mindy Cohn 10:53
Feed her. Yes.
I know. I mean, what a What a crazy, difficult journey that was for her. You don't have any kind of eating disorder. But I would have talked to her about music would have talked to her about touring and playing the drums. And if she had singing lessons, and you know how her Richard did their harmonies like silly things like that, but Oh, yeah, I could have met. Karen, I just would have been overjoyed. I met her brother, many, many years ago. And Karen's mother at a publishing thing in Los Angeles. And I couldn't even speak I shook Richards hand. And I just said, you know, thank you for your music. And. And yeah, it was really, really I would have liked to have met his sister too. But
Mindy Cohn 11:38
yeah, she's amazing. I met her. Oh, when they were recording at a&m record studios in Hollywood.
And that was my label down there. So I didn't see the studio that they worked in.
Mindy Cohn 11:50
Okay, well, good. There it is. What was she like? She was magical. I mean, she was very ethereal. Obviously, just the look of her and the sounds that she made. But I have always been very enraptured with musicians in the music business. And they're kind of like my sports heroes, you know, where I just go deaf, dumb and blind. I mean, I kind of don't know, because I just don't have that at all. That is not my instrument. That is not how I express my creativity. So I always end up like, I'm, I'm so jealous that she was just darling. I mean, it helps that I was introduced to her by Herb Alpert. So you know,
it. Okay. Well, this, this is just getting even more layered. Right.
Mindy Cohn 12:29
So there's that because yeah, so that's, yeah,
I played trumpet in junior high school because of herb Albert. Like we only had like, 10 people in the band. When you have like, 80 kids in your whole school. The band really sucks. But I think I played trumpet
Mindy Cohn 12:45
badly. Amazing. Amazing. So you talked about because we're just all coming out of if we can even call it coming out of them. And I know you have tour dates coming next year. Yes. This is actually happening that you're going to back out on the road. Thank God. Yeah. And season three of the show is launching.
And have you guys finished it? It's all done. It's been done since for about, oh, gosh, eight weeks. And you know, television is such a long lead up. But right. We the premiere starts the 27th of September. I'm not sure when Hulu goes with season three. They the first two seasons are on Hulu in the states now. Right. But yeah, it's really exciting. We got bumped because we're having a federal election. And we were on the same night as the federal election. So they put us on to the 27th of September now, which is Yeah, yeah.
Mindy Cohn 13:33
Let's Let's not Yeah, very, very good. So during this downtime, if you can even call it Christian or we're actually talking about it is like this woman ever stopped doing? Holy hell, you know, what inspired you? What did you binge on? Like, what happened to during this time?
Yeah. You know, doing a television show. I'm 59. And I had been approached about television in my career, but it was always a talk show format. I'm sure you've been inundated with that. And I really just didn't have any interest. I didn't leave Calgary. I was looking after both my parents blah, blah, blah. Anyway, when this came along, Andrew Barnsley is one of the producers from shits Creek. And he just said, he got a hold of me through a mutual friend. He's like Jan in a perfect world, like, honestly, what would you do if you could do a television show? And I said, Andrew, another year went by, and I finally went to who turned out to be my co creator, Leah Gao che. And I just said, Leah, what the hell is a pitch sheet? What would we do if we did a TV show? She was in reality television. And so she flew to my place and we sat at my kitchen table and came up with this basically what we're doing, I'm not an actor, so we had to kind of keep it close to the bone. So I play a very weird version of myself.
Mindy Cohn 14:48
Yeah. As very meta. I like that.
Yeah. If people think I thought your mother was dead, I'm like, Oh, no, she's quite dead. This is. This is all fiction. So I just confused people. Constantly, we use a lot of my music and but it has just been an absolute pleasure. And I know I'm at a certain age where women are supposed to kind of step to the side and, you know, take bow out of the scene and I just feel like, I don't want to do that screw that. I want to do this as long as I can. And I think it's, it's a very funny show. We really wanted to have dementia and that I said to Leah, I think Alzheimers is funny. My mom was funny. Yeah, yes. And God loves CTV my Canadian network. They were just so like, let's try it. If he watches it. I guess that's how it goes. And we have been gobsmacked by the outpouring. I mean, obviously, I have a fan base just with music. But I have had so much fun. I feel very close to my house out here. And to be able to stay home. You know, this is also new to me. I've never seen a harder working bunch of people in my life. I work two hours a day, maybe in music. I show up. I sing a song that I'm back in my hotel room with my dog watching a magic bullet infomercial. How to make salsa and pancake mix. Yeah. And this is like my pickups were 530 in the morning. I'm like, one is like blue shot. People touching you. And then we're trying to do this last season during COVID. Yeah, we had the same numbers up here as you guys did. Yeah. We still have yes stuff happening with the Delta variant here. So yeah, we certainly weren't exempt. But here we are. Who knows how it happens, but I'm just grateful for the opportunity.
Mindy Cohn 16:38
Yeah, of course. So So who are you a fan of what have you been bingeing on? Or have you had time to binge on an app? Oh, my God,
Christian Brescia 16:45
I just watched White Lotus on that. Yeah, I just started it. I
Mindy Cohn 16:49
haven't found my God. I mean, my quite my superhero.
Yeah, it's just um, I don't know how I'm going to feel about and I'm not going to give anything away cuz I know people are just starting it is know how I feel about ever going to any kind of all inclusive resort again, as long as I live as a white person. I feel like I just need to vacation on my deck forever. Yep. But that I mean, I did Game of Thrones for the third time during COVID. While seasons I did Oh, I redid all the Downton Abbey's and actually, this is my second time through Downton Abbey. I was like, Oh my God. I actually know who everybody belongs to. You kind of watched off you're nodding off and then you just keep going and then your TV's looking at you going. Are you still watching? Yeah, no, no, go go. Yeah, I'm still another one. You're like, did I see this? anyway? But I love to billionaire. I love succession. I love my favorite show. succession. Yeah. So good.
Mindy Cohn 17:54
Well, it's my mind. Berg's. I'm on season six. Oh my gosh. Excellent.
Wendy McLendon Coby is one of the brilliant is, I just love that. And then I've done a lot of indie movies. Yeah, yeah. I'm always up for watching, you know, euphoria, or just things that really kind of push those buttons that are sort of uncomfortable, but you watch them and you kind of go away feeling like your life is all right. Good. Yeah. Good way to put it.
Mindy Cohn 18:24
Agreed. Definitely agreed. And who are what is inspiring to you? Right now,
I have to say, I've really changed a lot of things the last few years, I stopped drinking about five years ago. And right around the same time I became vegan, I hadn't eaten red meat in many, many, many years. I just thought, Oh, my God, I just I can't take it emotionally anymore. I wanted, you know, how do you change the planet? What do you do about climate change? Yeah. And I'm thinking I can eat more plants. So that's kind of where I came into the conversation. Because I you do feel helpless? How do I change things? And so start with what's on your plate in a big way? Yeah. So anyway, I'm really inspired by any kind of advocacy for animals. I think, like I look at someone like gratitude, Berg. And here's this young woman, and any kind of advocacy for the planet when you have a lot of opposition, when you're a worrier. When you carry the weight of Yeah, concern about will we have enough water? Will we have oxygen? Everyone's being cruel to animals? And I look at her and I'm like, I am going to throw all of my positivity your way. Yes, I'm going to give you every ounce of my spirit and my encouragement, because it is a heavy load for anyone. Yeah,
Mindy Cohn 19:39
I feel the same way about her. I worry about her. I mean, I too, you know, she's so laden with it. And the seriousness of it that yeah, that yeah, that inspires myself. I have to kind of turn away because I get I start to feel too much for her. I worry about her.
Well, you can multiply that you know 100 fold and realize that, you know, she lives and breathes And obviously we've seen over the last the course of the last couple of years where she has sort of risen into the consciousness of global consciousness and inspired so many young people, the opposition and the backlash she faces from grown men and grown women with cartoons. And Politico's yes politicals. And it's always, it's a Marvel to me what people do with fear with people with with the idea of facing change. It is coming, California is, as you know, facing this week,
Mindy Cohn 20:33
drought, drought is such a real thing here. When I go to the farm in upstate New York, you know, and the guys leave the tap running, because you know, they're on well water. And I turn it off, and they remind me, it's this is not California, I said, No, but there's a limited amount of water. Yeah, on this planet. And it freaks me out that you just have the faucets running, like I can't handle it. And then what you should do, which is if carnivores just ate two days, less a week, which
is huge. Yeah, it's huge. And I think it's little things like that, but you really are so doable, so doable. And you got to meet people where they are, I think, you know, as a vegan, I can be, you know, a pain in the butt. And I think my friends are very used to me, but I also have learned a lot about my own advocacy for cruelty towards animals. You have to meet people where they are now I cheer people on my God, if they do a salad a couple times a week and aren't doing eggs on the weekend for breakfast to fry up and they're doing something an alternative. I'm just I cheer them on because that does make a big difference. Yeah, and yeah, that inspires me Mindy. I just any kind of advocacy for the planet, those warriors that kind of go unrewarded, that are scoffed at laughed at, you know, I live in such a beautiful place, and Canada has 20% of the world's freshwater. And, you know, we worry as a small country that has very little military, anything. Yes. The only people here with uniforms are the Girl Guides.
Mindy Cohn 22:01
So yeah, you know,
I think we have a responsibility. And even here where there really isn't water shortage yet. It the messaging is pounded to us about how we water so Canadians, I think are on high alert with how we protect the ice cap. It's part of the our northern territory, right? And but it's so interesting. I'm learning a lot you guys, I'm just I'm learning. I'm fumbling along like everybody else. I'm scared part of the time, but I am very encouraged by young people, by people that are making those changes long frickin answer. Okay, the by No,
Mindy Cohn 22:39
Jan, don't leave us. No, sir. Yeah, it's a great answer. And it's also you know, so our current and you know, without an eye roll, because I think people sometimes are so afraid to be vocal for fear of, you know, the eye roll or the canceled culture, whatever. All else is out there right now.
Christian Brescia 22:58
The retribution. Yeah. Yeah.
Mindy Cohn 23:00
That they're afraid to sort of just say like, this is important to me. Yeah. Yeah. I have said, it's the first time in my life. I'm very private. But I have wanted to run for office so bad, and I won't, because I don't want people in my personal life. Like it just I wish there was some way to do it without that. Yeah. But I am so motivated to be a change. Well, listen, you may feel differently in five or six or seven years. And one thing I have learned is never say never.
I considered that political thing. You know, I'm very vocal about the leadership that we do have. And you know, I can't take it on right now. But at 59 Gosh, I see a precedent at 78 years old. That is dignified. Beautifully spoken. Yep. Such a change for all of us in Canada, who are equally as affected by the last administration. As people were so we are hooked to your wagon. Full stop. We are hooked to you guys. In every possible sense. The border stops nothing. We share water, we share resources, we share oxygen, we share a common goal for order and peace in the world. We are not different. Yeah, we are people ask me that all the time. You know, when you tour when you go to shows in the States or in Canada. I'm like, it's the same emotional. There's only this a handful of emotions that human beings can experience. It doesn't matter if you're where you're from. Right. It's that joiner, but I think you'd be wonderful at it but never say never.
Mindy Cohn 24:35
I won't I just honestly I'm so like, you know, chewing my fingernails to get back on television or in front of a camera. I mean, I'm so ready to go back to work. Good. Um, this has been my longest you know, junction of networking and it's hiatus key. Ready? Thanks, Christian. That's a loving way to say it. Exactly. unemployed.
I'm ready. Not at all. I think the universe exactly and it's good to feel ready. Yeah. You know, There's nothing like Tippett. Tippett, I hate that word, like exactly what it is, um, and good for you for waiting for that internal, whatever it is that alarm that reminder that by all currency of the human heart to say, oh, now's the time, and people need to listen that more. I mean, I don't know what happened to intuition. I don't know why people started thinking it was a good idea to ignore that. Yeah, it's like, well, I
Mindy Cohn 25:25
think it's like what you said, I think people have gotten so afraid and have channeled it in such a different way than our ancestors. Even the generation before us. You know, my parents generation just handled fear a little bit. I'm going to say better than we are doing. And I just, I hope that pivots. Because I think it's all fear based. It is. Well,
you have to understand a difficult day for Gen X is, Oh, my God, am I the only one one bar? Who's got anybody have more than one bar? I've got? Like, I've got one bar. And, you know, I don't know if we've raised even with COVID. I think people of 1950 would have done much better than we did. I think they would have been more orderly. I think they would have been more compliant with each other. Well, this is what we got to do. Paper like it's it's not a nuclear bomb being threatened to be dropped on us. But I think, you know, our parents, our grandparents came out of the Second World War feeling so grateful. Yeah, we haven't experienced anything. Now. You know, if there's a shortage in avocados, it's a hardship. So when this happened, and I truly believe that good things come out of bad things. I think this has really prompted families to recognize each other people were baking bread, they were going for walks, they were having conversations. You know, I remember I had friends of mine with kids and their kids were saying, we want to get outside. We're sick of seeing this fall. I don't want to be in my I literally cannot be one more day on my iPad. So I mean, here, people, it's been unprecedented how people have been hiking, going on trails and getting out and just tell people they can't and they will do something. But anyway, good, good things do come out of bad things. And as much as this has been an absolute horror show, you know, for health care workers, frontline workers, certainly the people that have struggled with this and I know lots of people I have I my cousin's law, I guess they call her a long hauler. And she's got pleurisy. Now. She's your age, Mindy. So she's COVID has really kicked her butt. Oh, but I think she'll come around, you know, she's a pretty tenacious person. Yeah. But yeah, young people now realize this is the beginning of a real changing of the guard on this planet. And how, you know, the planet is kind of fighting back a little bit. So yeah, I'm not
Mindy Cohn 27:41
mad at it. Truly. Yeah. I just always want people to lead a little bit more with kindness. And remember neighborliness, you know, so whatever. I'm a terminal optimist. I get that. Danny rose. Thank God, I am her blood coursing through my veins. You do? Yeah. Mindy and I are Instagram friends. Yes. And you come across as incredibly intuitive and humble. And I love seeing pictures of your old friends and people that you connect with that know you. And I've known you for a long time. Yeah. And that, to me says so much about a person's character. And you do seem like a person that just wear your heart on your sleeve. And you're a person of your word, you know, so I do and I am. I'll tell you what I'm trying to I'm trying to grow out of being so hard on my friends. I'm really hard on them. I demand a lot and I didn't know how excessively needy I am. Until this time, you know when it's hard for me, but I really am trying to get better at that. That's kind of been my early New Year's resolution is still you know, just lighten up on all the people that love me and actually like, want for me, you know?
Well, it's it's the little changes you never get to an age where you know, like you got it all. Got it sorted out. It is a never ending just ask my 90 year old friend Maryanne.
Mindy Cohn 28:56
Yeah, it's just it's unbelievable. And the sage wisdom she imparts on me. Yeah, whenever I have any kind of trouble or quandary I I just call her and she you know, we FaceTime and she's got all our tech stuff down. Amazing. He's big amazings of loaves of banana bread is lower than down for balcony for the church people and some things and it's really it. Well, I made 12 banana breads today. Oh my god. wrote them down my balcony.
Mindy Cohn 29:24
Please send her it's truly my sincerest like good wishes and tell her Hello for me. I can't wait to meet her. I need to meet her.
Yeah, you will bloom where you are. She always says blue bar. Oh, that may go awesome. best out of every situation you have. And if I mean, I'm not gonna live that long. But I don't even know how she does it. I love it. There is value in a long friendship. There's value my greatest successes are my friends and saying
Mindy Cohn 29:54
that Oh, yeah. Jan. Thank you. You are like even better than I had hoped for. Oh, you're just incredible. I so appreciate you and I am so excited to have met you and I getting my ass up to Calgary. just telling you
you're welcome here anytime and we will cross paths for sure. Thank you for putting this all together continued wonderment and joy in your life and and just kick ass and let's just get out there and fail.
Mindy Cohn 30:20
Oh, yeah. No, no, the best is yet to give me 100% That's great. Thanks for having me.
Christian Brescia 30:26
Ladies and gentlemen, one more time. A big round of applause for the very special Jann Arden