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Christian Brescia 00:01
Hello everybody and welcome back to another episode of Monday's with Monday. Hi Mindy.
Mindy Cohn 00:05
Hi Christian! Sorry, just fixing my bangs
Christian Brescia 00:08
That's okay, they look great.
Mindy Cohn 00:11
Thanks. Today we are thrilled to welcome singer songwriter and author Jake shears. Jake is best known as the lead singer of the pop rock band Scissor Sisters that he founded with his friend Scott Hoffman after the to move to New York City in 2001. First finding success across the pond in the United Kingdom and Ireland, Jake became just as known for his onstage provocative dancing and flamboyant outfits as his amazing voice and music. Take us outside of very successful collabs with other artists like Tyga, Kylie Minogue and Calvin Harris. He's also collaborated with john garden to write the music for the musical version of Tales of the City. And in 2013 he do what did was share on the track take it like a man for her album closer to the truth. In 2017, Jake released his first song as a solo artist creep city, and that following year made his Broadway debut starring in Kinky Boots. Later in 2018. Jake published his autobiography, boys keep swinging. The memoir explores his evolution as a young artist, his entrance music scene in New York City, his band's rise to iconic status and international fame. It's an inspiration to anyone with determination and a dream. That same year he debuted his solo album of the same name, and in 2019, he toured with Kylie Minogue while also performing solo shows around the country. Last year he appeared as the unicorn on itds the masked singer and also released the hit single meltdown his tribute to the great musical pioneers Sylvester one of the greatest this year Jake will return to the dance floor with his latest solo release do the television and the boys noise single all I want out now on defected records Oh, this is why I don't think I could be a DJ
Christian Brescia 02:10
a lot to say for someone that accomplished! All right right ladies and gentlemen, I'm a very big fan and I'm excited to bring him into the show!
Mindy Cohn 02:19
speechless. Yay, Jake.
Jake Shears 02:23
Hey, how's it going Mindy? Hi, Christian.
Mindy Cohn 02:27
Oh my god. So good. And as I said to you, you know, before we started recording, better to see your face
Jake Shears 02:34
I don't know. I feel the same way the same way. How's it going?
Mindy Cohn 02:38
You know what? We can't complain can we Christian?
Christian Brescia 02:40
No, we certainly can.
Mindy Cohn 02:41
I mean, we could but we just aren't those people. Yeah, yeah. So anyway, we start each episode Christian and I came up with 20 questions I pull five we just start gabbing right kind of what happened right
Jake Shears 02:52
Mindy Cohn 02:53
yeah little get to know you get more serious or not.
Jake Shears 02:57
We'll see. Yeah, yeah, I'm fine with
Mindy Cohn 03:00
that I know for sure. Do you have a hidden talent or something you do that would surprise people?
Jake Shears 03:06
I do I'm not I wouldn't know and I it's not necessarily a challenge but it's something that I like to do sometimes is a contact juggling. I grew up you know watching Labyrinth is so many kids did with Bowie and you know Henson made that and there's a lot of contact juggling in that movie that a publisher makes it look like David Bowie is doing it it was always my dream to at least get the basics down for it so I took some lessons and you know I've got a pretty heavy crystal ball that's like that will break your foot if it drops on your foot but I can pass it around and make it do some cool stuff.
Mindy Cohn 03:43
Oh, that is very impressive.
Christian Brescia 03:47
I was very curious what you were gonna say there I'm like, I know what does he not shown us but
Mindy Cohn 03:52
that's like oh my God, love um, what do you splurge on?
Oh, what do I splurge on Yeah, I splurge on therapy and trainers and like I you know really believe in having like expensive psychiatrists if you care like expensive therapists and just throwing money at problems like you know, just help working out. I always tell friends you have the means with certain issues. I've just like you know, I'm very fortunate to be able to do that but I always say just like, throw as much money as you can at it. And you know, things will you know, maybe get better I don't know, but that's what I splurge on is basically you know, just my general well being as healthcare I guess.
Mindy Cohn 04:37
Okay, so I have to ask, Are you are you the kind of person who goes to therapy for a specific thing? And so there's a beginning middle and end to it or do you just have a relationship with a therapist that is ongoing, and you talk about past future present all the above?
One guy yeah, I mean, I've got a psychiatrist I've been with since like, 2006 five So it's like, we have this like long running relationship. And then I have like a relationship therapist that I've had for a couple years now. Basically focuses on that. And like, you know, sort of the complexities of Yeah, relationships, folks. I don't think sporting to me too, like, you know, I'm always trying to, like, clean up my side of the street, whatever I need to do, you know, very admirable, you know, I'm 42 I'm single, I got to mingle. I mean,
Mindy Cohn 05:27
I'm okay. Is that wrong? I'm just not too concerned. Okay.
Christian Brescia 05:33
I can't say that
Mindy Cohn 05:33
I am. I mean, I know you. I don't mean to poopoo your wants and desires, but I'm not concerned as a bag had since I was 14. I, I really do have my opinion matters. Absolutely. Always. You're not alone for long if you don't want jack. Okay. Um, who is your favorite relative?
Oh, my, there's so many. But my favorite relative is my cousin Jackie Su. And she's my second cousin. She's a hairdresser who has, you know, the higher the hair the closer to God kind of hair. Oh, she's very, she's small. She has a huge laugh. And she talks very loudly. And it's always just like, laughing and she's just like a pure joy to be around. I've got so many amazing relatives, but she's just one of my absolute favorites.
Mindy Cohn 06:22
Okay. Do you see your family often?
I do. I'm headed to go see my mom and dad in. Like two weeks. My dad's 93 years old.
Mindy Cohn 06:29
Oh, yes. Yeah,
that's brilliant. This still like going strong. Oh,
Mindy Cohn 06:35
my God loving me. So necessary. I'm one of the lucky ones too. I have my parents and we're very close. And it's like, yes, I'm all about that. Um, when is the last time you cried? Oh, my
Mindy Cohn 06:49
Do you? sadness or joy?
Oh God, I do. But if I'm very emotional, I will like I will cry about things I feel passionately about. And then you know, yeah, I cry. Like I cry when I'm sad. Yeah, yeah, I'm a crime. I'm a crier. I'm a very emotional person.
Mindy Cohn 07:08
Yes, same. I'm a weeper. But I tend interestingly enough I tend to cry often but I cry more out of joy or happiness or whatever
Yeah, it's definitely like when I'm I think that's a good way to put it like just being moved in general.
Mindy Cohn 07:22
Yeah. Um, okay. What is your favorite place in the world?
New Orleans where I'm at right now? Yeah, why? Everything about it it's just I think it's a really magical place I think it's one of the best places in the world I've been all over the place I love the people here I love the history I love the connection that people have to the city. I love the music I love the food I love it's just got a vibe to it it's some portal to somewhere I don't know but it's like fun and creepy and dark and joyful and it's just got everything
Mindy Cohn 07:53
well in the history of the city to know I don't think Christian we've talked to too many people in the south are like no How was your COVID experience as far as I don't need to obviously similarities that we all went through but yeah, how did everybody for the most part deal with it in New Orleans?
It was great in the city everyone took a very you know in the city everyone really seemed to take it very seriously but it was it was super interesting because you know when the crescent there's only about 350,000 Yes, it's a small town town and you know we have millions of tourists you know and that's usually when you look around you know on a normal day in New Orleans you're seeing tourists so it was fascinating It was like a once in a lifetime moment that the city everyone you saw was local so that was really interesting it was a very interesting year and and sweet in that way it was uh yeah it was just very different was one of those times where like this is once in a lifetime that I'm gonna sort of see see my city like this you know Yeah, and you did did you stay put there I did I bought a house right before COVID and then moved into October I was just I was here I just sort of good timing nested me and the dog anything
Mindy Cohn 09:02
amazing. So when did you live down there from New York City? Has it been a really long time
I've been here I've been splitting my time here for six years I mean I had a condo here for a long time I mean I'm in and out so much you know right but no validated everything here. And you know have my I'm always jumping around but I like to spend like half my time
Mindy Cohn 09:22
you know, ideally, yeah, yeah. No, I understand completely
is too small for me to be here like year round. I mean, I would go out of my mind. I mean, it's like there's it's my quiet place. It's like, we go. I do go a little bit crazy if I'm here. Yeah, we just stepped out.
Mindy Cohn 09:38
I can't understand that. So we basically, you know, started this last year this podcast because Christian and I both been creatives it's like that's really the only thing I was missing. I mean, being the introvert that I am the homebody that I am. It was not a hardship for me. Obviously. I had financial means and food and water and so honestly, to be told, like, I don't Now the city is closed for what I didn't know was going to be a year but a few months was not crazy. But I missed talking to other creatives. So we counted Mondays with Monday and we talked to everybody about their creative process. Yeah, really lofty thing. But like, when I say like, what's your creative process? How does that enter your brain? And what spits out as far as that? Do you write every day? Do you play every day? Like,
yeah, I mean, I used to have a ton of stuff going on. Like right now I'm in the middle of making an album. I'm in the middle of two musicals that I've been working on for a long time. I've got a radio show on Sirius on Fridays, I've started my second book. Um, you know, there's always I'm starting a movie project for doing music for it. So there's always just like, literally your thumbs clearly. Yeah, yeah, just, well, I feel so lazy sometimes. Which is the weird thing is I feel like I'm like, I don't feel like I work that much. But I do. And I always try to keep something going every day. I just feel like if you work a little bit on whatever I'm moved to work on, or whatever I need to get done. I do it every day. I mean, right before I you know, got on here to speak to y'all I am, you know, working on a song that was just over and just, you know, laying down vocals and working on melodies. And this is an artist is a producer, I love very much that I contacted and I was like you got any, like, cool demos that you know, I would love to, you know, try my hand at it. So stuff like that. There's always like, little things, big things to work on. And I keep notebooks, I think a lot of the shower is kind of my thinking place. Yeah, if I get stuck, I just go get in the shower.
Mindy Cohn 11:37
It's so good.
Because it's sort of the only place in our world that we just are closed off that we sort of have like real alone time is in the shower, and my brain can just start actually maybe, like putting some pieces together in there. I also really love working with other people. So I'm No, I never do anything alone. Usually, I mean, I'll put ideas down alone. And I'll write a lot sometimes. But I really prefer getting things done with collaborators. And so I have a ton of collaborators. I'm always in contact with, you know, yeah, working on a lot of different stuff. So you know, it's multifaceted. It's, I've just feel super lucky that I'm able to do that. And nothing ever feels like a job.
Mindy Cohn 12:22
You know, which is that's also being a creative in art. Right? It's where we choose to make it.
Yeah, yeah. And it's, I get a lot of joy out of just making things and I and these days, I really just make things for the sake of making them like I don't have any agenda behind stuff. I want things to be successful. I want things I want people to find them and appreciate them. But it doesn't that's not my first and foremost, it's like the creation of things is the real fun part for me.
Mindy Cohn 12:47
So what's it been like being offstage for a year and a half? Because I know you're that persona of when you're live is something to be I mean, I really I got a gift when Mickey brought me to see you. I mean, I really I had no idea you live is a totally different experience than just listening to you, I have to say and so like I wondered, just coming from that. How much are you pining for that or has that energy been channeled into something else?
I mean, it's definitely been channeling thank you for your kind words that I am very sweet. You know performing is my is my real number one and I was just like getting my hair cut today. And I said for the first time I it came out of my mouth. I said, I don't feel like a performer anymore.
Christian Brescia 13:31
yeah. Which is just, it's such a I feel like something is just gone that I don't get to do anymore and I don't really see it coming on the horizon. Frankly, at the moment I'm pretty pessimistic about it. And so I'm just preparing for that.
Mindy Cohn 13:53
I will rub off on you in a minute because, you know, it not only will be back it's actually going to be so necessary, you know, as far as not only what we need, but to do as performers as artists, but like what people are really going to need and become necessary like must go see live shows must
Yeah, I sing alongs in my house on Sundays sometimes there's a woman named Henrietta who's in her 80s and she's been allowed to sing or Brian's here for like 45 years. And she comes over and a couple that you know, will just get a, you know, a gathering of folks, some people can play the piano and everybody sort of gets up and sings and you just like hang out and have drinks and it's it really is having and it's heaven actually feels so good for me to just get up and sing in front of 12 people that are my friends. that satisfies something on a certain level.
Mindy Cohn 14:47
So we were talking about and this is like now going on two years, maybe three in New York, but you were talking about doing a project with elton john, is that the film
score or is that is a stage show. Yeah, I mean it's it's Yes, the musical. Yeah, that's Um, so everything that you that you're working on. Yeah, Elton and I have written a whole score together. And I still always pinch myself about it. And the music is something I'm so proud of. I think it's so good. And can it's just a trip we've been working on it for, you know, musicals take forever we've been working on for six years. Yeah. And, and it's we're going into production mode now, you know, so very excited about it. And it's just gonna be one of those things. That's my second. I'm working on another musical right now. There'll be my third my first musical just had its 10 year anniversary, which is adaptation kills with Chitty and I gotta say, you know, I have never had an experience,
Mindy Cohn 15:41
just interrupt you and say that I saw that, and did not put it together until I was writing the intro. And I'm like, Really?
Yes. Oh, my God, it's so cool that you saw it. Oh, my God.
Mindy Cohn 15:53
It was amazing.
That's so cool. Thank you. Yeah, amazing. Yeah, that's, that's great. Because, you know, it's, it's hard with theatre, because sometimes you don't feel like once it's gone, you don't feel like you've got much to show for it. And that's part of the heartbreak of it. But being on the other end of something like that. And it's musicals are such hard work, and it takes so much to get it all there. And it takes so many people and it's such a feat, I just think it's like the most archaic form of art that anybody can do. It's like, there's no shortcuts, or anything, and everybody's got to have their game on. So it's like I seeing just being there every night, I would just cry every night when the show started. Because it was just like a feeling that I've never experienced before. Just sitting there watching something actually unfold in front of an audience. And, you know, I say musicals are nothing but heartbreak. I always say I'm never gonna run into music again. I keep going back on,
Mindy Cohn 16:54
but there's always forward propulsion. That's what I always say, me, it's the same with trying to make a movie, a theatrical film. I mean, it's yours. People don't understand that it's years and years and years, and just having the close friendships that I do with people like Todd almond, who has been writing and trying to produce the same musicals again for decades, and one comes to fruition and you don't even know what to do with yourself. happening, you know, I mean, so I can only through osmosis kind of understand. So I'm thrilled for you, because I know that it's gonna happen. I mean, thank you. Thank you. Yeah, at the same time.
Yeah, no, that's what's really scary about having eight projects going on at once is like, suddenly, it's like, Oh, my God. It's all happening right
Mindy Cohn 17:38
now. And how is your music changed in regard to getting it out to the fans, and just getting it out? It's such a different animal than when you guys started, which, by the way, wasn't that long ago, but
wasn't long ago. But I mean, but we were so crazy. I feel so fortunate that I got you, you know, as a child of I was born in 78. So basically a child of the 80s. And, yeah, a fan of the analog. And, you know, we sold CDs, our first two albums, like we saw, it was all CDs, and I'm just so glad that I, you know, when our first album came out, iTunes didn't even exist. So, you know, I feel fortunate to I mean, you can see, like, I've got a full record collection, oh, my God, like, I'm a bit
Mindy Cohn 18:20
more right. Now. I could not. So
I love that side of things. I feel very fortunate that we started at a time where we could sell CDs, and it's it is different. It's completely different. I don't like it as much anymore. The sort of instant gratification is kind of Yeah, but in other ways. It's amazing. And at the moment, I'm just kind of like doing it myself. I mean, I'm hoping to get my next record signed. It's a dance album. And it's, I think it's amazing. I'm really excited about it.
Christian Brescia 18:48
Have a good track record with those. So
it's a barnburner it's the whole thing.
Mindy Cohn 18:54
I have ideas that I want to talk to you about, which we won't do on air, you know, on podcast, but I do I actually had a couple of like, Oh, I know who I need to put you with? Yes, yes, exactly. what or who inspires you?
what or who inspires you? You know, sometimes it can be I love finding in life. Like, you know, I think muses are real. And you know, there are friendships in my life that I will have people in mind when I'm writing things and I'll have I will make things for specific people or I will you know, when I'm when I'm making something, I'm thinking the whole time, like I can't wait until like my buddy Jason hears this or I can't wait to play this for so and so. So, a lot of times friends and people that I'm close with, inspire me and become those muses in a way. Yeah. I mean, all kinds of things. But yeah, people close to me really inspire
Mindy Cohn 19:58
me. What do you binge on Basically um or does it vary
God lately it's been the new I mean this is this is so out of character for me kind of but like I don't know what's gotten into me but that the new john mayer album is like sending me to Mars. It's got everything like, right up my alley. Yeah, it's just like, sort of 80s Classic Rock, you know, but I've been trying to let you know I've got a dance music show on Sirius on Fridays I yeah, I just got a new set of CDJ 3000 so I love just DJing for fun I DJ out I love tons of dance music I'm super into like hard techno and you know, darker house. And you know, I listen to a ton
Mindy Cohn 20:41
of someone who doesn't know what that what is darker house mean? I don't know what that means. Stuff
that like when I DJ, I'm definitely like, I play stuff. That's a little it's just darker. That's a little more late night. It's a little druggie or it's a little like a little more kind of maybe disturbing, like on a dance floor like
Mindy Cohn 21:01
it used to be trans dances so you know, I mean, what are trans dances? Are you serious? Oh my god. So trans dances I mean seriously, I went from you know, late night clubbing you you know the fact that I am listen I started young man stances was something that occurred I'm going to say 20 years ago and you go into a dark basement completely dark and there would be music and kinds of music and the DJ would take you through a trance so what started as normal dance music and then it will kind of little techno and then we'll kind of get I don't know how to describe it like I mean almost like metaphysical religious music but with a beat and you would just dance until you lose yourself and it would be a trance dance like you would just we would dance for six or seven hours at a time which by the way I still love to do which is like my you know what do people don't know about you? is I have certain people in my life my friend Sarah cannon I mean we will go and we will just dance for seven hours
amazing let's see got I mean that's good that feels so good. But
Mindy Cohn 22:11
you should be more organized and they were called transplanters amazing
yes sounds like oh a lot of fun you know I love throwing dance parties. Bunch of buddies of mine and I've been doing like our own little getting great sound systems and going out to like the Mojave Desert and setting up you know for like 60 of us you know all night long like in the middle of nowhere and that kind of stuff it's a lot of fun. Okay,
Mindy Cohn 22:36
I need my number
Yeah, I would love I would love it I would love it but ya know I've been told I you know I do classic rock I find these like you know i auction and stuff I'll just get like 45 collections and then just like I'll just sit around and play 45 of like just tons of stuff that you I don't know that I've never heard and you can just find like crazy amazing like singles that will just like blow your mind I mean some it's like you just be like oh my god I mean I found a song by Scott Rogers of God but that got an auction and it's a song called My uncle used to love me but she died and you know like what not become like my uncle used to love me but she died is really one of the best songs you'll ever have heard so it's just
Mindy Cohn 23:24
like that has to be like on a T shirt or on the name of a chapter of the book
so good yeah so you know I kind of I love discovering stuff and in playing I've got I've also got like a turntable set up in my kitchen you know I've got like five or six cool music stations just in my house.
Mindy Cohn 23:44
Gosh Did you lose yourself as we all did in COVID with watching certain shows are you a TV or movie watcher or not really it's Music Music only
I watched films I'm not as great with I prefer a movie to a longer thing it's a real commitment for me. I do love feature films and I've watched a lot of them and I watched a lot of older stuff and we're always trying to discover movies so I'm less inclined to binge watch series but I'm mostly you know i during like real lockdown I just got better at I was I just got a brand new setup and just really worked on getting better at my music rig and running logic and just getting ideas just like pen to paper so I've like really had a big leap as far as I mean I don't consider myself like a front seat producer or anything but I've my skills have gotten a lot better just in creating just getting ideas down recording vocals all that stuff.
Mindy Cohn 24:42
Yeah. Oh boy do
you obsessed with what am i obsessed with?
Mindy Cohn 24:46
I am an obsessive person love
Yeah, definitely. Yeah, definitely. It's one of love is is one of them. You know Yeah, I love I think that's yeah Just like basically, you know, music and creation and you know, I love booze and recreational drugs a lot. But you know, I'm doing this thing now where I've, I basically woke up early spring and was like, realized, I'm like, I've been hung over for six months every morning like this. Like, I was just like, I've had it. Yeah, I feel like, I'm like, tired of feeling like, so I've been doing six weeks of no drinking, and then I do a week of drinking. And then I just go back to six more weeks of no drinking. So I really like plan just one week in various spots. And we're just kind of let myself do whatever I want. And then go back to I'm not I don't want to be sober or anything, but you know, but I just really has changed my life. Like,
Mindy Cohn 25:51
it's gonna say, how has it affected your life? Like, what do you notice? Or what do you mean just obviously, you physically feel better?
Yeah, physically feel better, and just personality wise, my edges pop out. I've always been a pretty intense, I'm more intense, I find that I have deeper conversations with people. My focus is better just in having Yeah, and having a dialogue with with someone, I definitely noticed I've deeper conversations. parties can be hard, but I just kind of like push through can be uncomfortable being a party, you know, not having that lubrication. Right. But, you know, just kind of push through, but and then but I love partying all night with people because I can get three or four hours sleep and feel like fine. Yeah, so not keeping myself
Mindy Cohn 26:38
I mean, I just sort of aged out of that kind of like crazy, you know, I just can't I physically can't do it anymore. So I mean, you know, part of it just growing older is like, I can't, not that I don't want to I can't
Yeah, that's what has kind of been feeling like and I'm just like, I want to go, you know, 42 and I want to, I want to go into my 40s like feeling great. And you know, not waking up in the morning being like, overwhelmed by all those things I was talking about. I want to look at what I'm doing and be excited about.
Mindy Cohn 27:06
Yeah, and be able to do it. Not that you didn't before. But yeah, that can be precedent for it truthful. Yes, absolutely. And what about getting back on stage as far as musicals? Or are these theater pieces? Are you strictly behind the scenes? Or is one of them for you?
No, I mean, I don't make I mean, there could be some magical moment where it's like, oh my god, but no, I mean, I'm just creating them. But I would really love to get back on Broadway doing something on Broadway. That was a it was just one of the best times in my life and it was one of the most challenging things I've ever done. And I learned so much and I mean, I love just biting off more than I can chew. You know what anymore I'm like this, I don't know if I can do this. And you know, it's one of my favorite things to do.
Mindy Cohn 27:54
I like being underestimated and I think that's kind of the flip of the coin of that interesting okay you know cuz it really is the result is kind of the same of just feeling like let me show Yeah, I got it.
Yeah, you know, I just like I love just like I had to, you know, work and work and work. I'm terrible at choreography. You know?
Mindy Cohn 28:15
Nothing to me.
I'm not great at like improv my way all over a stage but I get like choreography and I do you know, Kinky Boots. There's a number on treadmills and like, like, so, you know, it was some major work, but, you know, it was so gratifying and I would love to be in another show.
Mindy Cohn 28:32
Well, I would love to see you because I do have to say as talented as you are, your voice is something so special. You are an amazing performer. Amazing. I just think everyone on the planet should see you live and in person at least one time
Christian Brescia 28:48
at least once a
week. Thank you Sure. Thank you. I don't know I you know what I'd like it's funny. I'm just winging it. I don't know what I'm doing. I just run out there
Mindy Cohn 28:58
but it's the nature of being an artist and a creative Anyway, you just really do have a little Gypsy spirit and you just kind of go where the next opportunity is. I do believe it's what makes us terminal optimists. I'm convinced among the people that disagree with me, but I am one of those.
Yeah, I'm definitely no best. Even though it's cranky, but COVID earlier
Mindy Cohn 29:21
Yeah. As I would tell people like it keeps giving I mean, it just it was a little relentless, so that everyone talked about fatigue. I was just like, oh my god, I have had relationships like this where it's just I'm trying to get out and I can't. So it was trying. Yeah. Anyway, I am so grateful that he said yes to doing an episode I wanted to see your face I wanted to talk to totally selfish, Christian, obsessed fan. I just want to say
thanks. Awesome. Amazing. Very cool. Yeah, nice to meet you.
Christian Brescia 29:57
Can you many times a big fan of music.
Mindy Cohn 29:59
I adore you. And I can't wait to see everything and anything that you do.
Awesome, very sweet. Thank you for having me today. It's really fun to be on here with you and see y'all
Christian Brescia 30:08
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